Eberlicious
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For 3M: List in order the 5 worst contracts in the league right now, and what you think is fair value for them.
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Richard Jeffersen - MLE, and that’s pushing it.
Nene Hilario - MLE at this point.
Vince Carter - cost is fine, length is issue.
Jason Terry - I’d be fine with 9/10 AAV for 2 years at most.
Gerald Walace - max 6 AAV
It’s hard to say anything about value, as it would be irresponsible to give up a single asset for any of these guys lol.
edit - oh I get it now.
Nene Hilario - MLE at this point.
Vince Carter - cost is fine, length is issue.
Jason Terry - I’d be fine with 9/10 AAV for 2 years at most.
Gerald Walace - max 6 AAV
It’s hard to say anything about value, as it would be irresponsible to give up a single asset for any of these guys lol.
edit - oh I get it now.
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I'll start us off...
1. Jeff Green: 4 year max for a non max guy. The commitment to the Late 2000s- Early 2010s Celtics is cool, though
a. Caron Butler got cutback for one single first round pick, so the right tanking team and a pick can probably get Jeff Green off your hands, if that's what you even want. He's a decent player, just overpaid
2. Brendan Haywood: Best player on the list by a large margin. Worth the salary for a year or two, but would be worried what this looks like later on. The increase in salary could help but still, too expensive.
a. You might be able to get someone to pay you for Haywood. This and the JO contract are pretty comparable, but Heat are a better team so it works for them
3. Anthony Randolph: Salary isn't the worst but Randolph really just isn't a player at all
a. Would likely need to pay a tanking team a future pick to get them to take Randolph. Doesn't really make sense to roster him if you're going for it.
4. Drew Gooden: Similar to Randolph. Might be a better player, but also a lot older. Randolph might improve, Gooden will probably decline
a. A pick or cash to the right team. Not the end of the world
5. Nicholas Batum: Again just not really a player at the moment. Might improve tough
a. A decent pick could move the salary.
Honorable Mention: Caron Butler 3 year max cutback on the Knicks. So bad. This is actually number 1.
Jeff Green | SF | 25 | $14,692,050 | $15,780,350 | $16,868,650 | $17,956,950 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $65,298,000 |
1. Jeff Green: 4 year max for a non max guy. The commitment to the Late 2000s- Early 2010s Celtics is cool, though
a. Caron Butler got cutback for one single first round pick, so the right tanking team and a pick can probably get Jeff Green off your hands, if that's what you even want. He's a decent player, just overpaid
| Brendan Haywood | C | 31 | $18,091,071 | $19,538,357 | $20,985,643 | $22,432,929 | $23,880,215 | $0 | $0 | $104,928,215 |
2. Brendan Haywood: Best player on the list by a large margin. Worth the salary for a year or two, but would be worried what this looks like later on. The increase in salary could help but still, too expensive.
a. You might be able to get someone to pay you for Haywood. This and the JO contract are pretty comparable, but Heat are a better team so it works for them
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3. Anthony Randolph: Salary isn't the worst but Randolph really just isn't a player at all
a. Would likely need to pay a tanking team a future pick to get them to take Randolph. Doesn't really make sense to roster him if you're going for it.
Drew Gooden | PF | 30 | $7,875,000 | $8,250,000 | $8,625,000 | $9,000,000 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $33,750,000 |
4. Drew Gooden: Similar to Randolph. Might be a better player, but also a lot older. Randolph might improve, Gooden will probably decline
a. A pick or cash to the right team. Not the end of the world
0 | Nicolas Batum | SG | 22 | $7,000,000 | $7,385,000 | $7,770,000 | $8,155,000 | $8,540,000 | $0 | $0 | $38,850,000 |
5. Nicholas Batum: Again just not really a player at the moment. Might improve tough
a. A decent pick could move the salary.
Honorable Mention: Caron Butler 3 year max cutback on the Knicks. So bad. This is actually number 1.
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Nene: MLE level player getting paid near max money for putting up similar numbers to any top LFA big.
Anthony Randolph: would be fine around 4M per year, maybe a little shorter as well.
Drew Gooden: again, would be fine around 4M per year on a shorter contract.
Rudy Fernandez: should be under 10M per year. Length is fine, but max money for a 3 and D guy isn't smart.
Richard Jefferson: needs to be a shorter deal. MLE level player.
HMs: Jeff Green, Nicolas Batum, Allen Iverson, Jason Terry
Anthony Randolph: would be fine around 4M per year, maybe a little shorter as well.
Drew Gooden: again, would be fine around 4M per year on a shorter contract.
Rudy Fernandez: should be under 10M per year. Length is fine, but max money for a 3 and D guy isn't smart.
Richard Jefferson: needs to be a shorter deal. MLE level player.
HMs: Jeff Green, Nicolas Batum, Allen Iverson, Jason Terry
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Brendan Haywood
Vince Carter
Richard Jefferson
James Johnson
Caron Butler.
Glad I managed to get off the Carter deal, but having 3 of these contracts in my team at once was not fun lol. Haywood making crazy money. Vince got a nice late career deal. James Johnson is young, but 11 a year is wild.
Vince Carter
Richard Jefferson
James Johnson
Caron Butler.
Glad I managed to get off the Carter deal, but having 3 of these contracts in my team at once was not fun lol. Haywood making crazy money. Vince got a nice late career deal. James Johnson is young, but 11 a year is wild.
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Jason Terry $7mil
Nene $8 mil
VC $7 mil
Jeff Green $6mil
R Jefferson $5mil
Nene $8 mil
VC $7 mil
Jeff Green $6mil
R Jefferson $5mil
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VC - still gets buckets and can defend but he’s worth 8M avg
richard Jefferson - good two way weekend. 6M avg would be nice as the cap jumps
LaMarcus Aldridge - max on a very replaceable big that’s declining - 5M AVG
Jeff green - max wing who hasn’t done anything. Wouldn’t completely count him out but it’s ugly right now. 7M AVG
Jason Terry - End of his career still getting a bag. 6M AVG
richard Jefferson - good two way weekend. 6M avg would be nice as the cap jumps
LaMarcus Aldridge - max on a very replaceable big that’s declining - 5M AVG
Jeff green - max wing who hasn’t done anything. Wouldn’t completely count him out but it’s ugly right now. 7M AVG
Jason Terry - End of his career still getting a bag. 6M AVG
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Luol Deng: I don’t think you want to start him on a contender and he’s preventing you from grabbing another max type player. 4M/ a year.
Jeff Green: I offered him a max too, he’s the best athlete in the league but man, he did not pan out. 4M/ a year.
Nene: Man, he’s fine. But he just doesn’t do enough at that deal. 8M/ a year. Signed him so I didn’t lose an asset for nothing, sorry Hank.
Vince Carter: My guy but too old and washed for that huge deal. 7M/ a year.
Aldridge: Sucks, worse than Nene. 5M/ a year.
Jeff Green: I offered him a max too, he’s the best athlete in the league but man, he did not pan out. 4M/ a year.
Nene: Man, he’s fine. But he just doesn’t do enough at that deal. 8M/ a year. Signed him so I didn’t lose an asset for nothing, sorry Hank.
Vince Carter: My guy but too old and washed for that huge deal. 7M/ a year.
Aldridge: Sucks, worse than Nene. 5M/ a year.
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Ray Allen’s better than your entire team outside of Kemba
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I'm going to pick one from each division + someone else.
Gerald Wallace - I actually like him a bit, but 10M is a bit too much for his lack for offensive fire power. For his defense though, I'd give him 6M a year.
Vince Carter - He's old, isn't the scorer that he once was and is making 17M ATM. I think 10ishm per year would be better for him.
Nene - Getting paid 15M and can't even grab 10 boards. He should be around 6-8M.
Andre Igoudala - 82M total for a guy that is maybe a 3rd/4th option. No Bueno.
Jeff Green/KD - Tie between them. Both are severely overpaid based off their name. A guy like Andre Emmett is making 5M per and >> them. Even Sam Young @ 8M looks better.
Gerald Wallace - I actually like him a bit, but 10M is a bit too much for his lack for offensive fire power. For his defense though, I'd give him 6M a year.
Vince Carter - He's old, isn't the scorer that he once was and is making 17M ATM. I think 10ishm per year would be better for him.
Nene - Getting paid 15M and can't even grab 10 boards. He should be around 6-8M.
Andre Igoudala - 82M total for a guy that is maybe a 3rd/4th option. No Bueno.
Jeff Green/KD - Tie between them. Both are severely overpaid based off their name. A guy like Andre Emmett is making 5M per and >> them. Even Sam Young @ 8M looks better.
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Mike Conley - the fit is good in Orlando, but hes not worth 50+ mil. Slightly above MLE is where he should be
Rashard Lewis - The back end of that contract is going to be rough. He's already seen a 5 ppg drop in production this year. I would be comfortable paying him in the 12-16 mil a year range. NOT 18-23 mil
Romeo Travis - 69 mil is hashtag nice, but is also hashtag overpaid. Slightly above MLE is where he should be
Brendan Haywood - 100+ mil is a ton of money for a guy who only makes 3 layups a game. 12-15 mil AT MOST
Allen Iverson - 32 mil to barely play. Should be an MLE guy
Rashard Lewis - The back end of that contract is going to be rough. He's already seen a 5 ppg drop in production this year. I would be comfortable paying him in the 12-16 mil a year range. NOT 18-23 mil
Romeo Travis - 69 mil is hashtag nice, but is also hashtag overpaid. Slightly above MLE is where he should be
Brendan Haywood - 100+ mil is a ton of money for a guy who only makes 3 layups a game. 12-15 mil AT MOST
Allen Iverson - 32 mil to barely play. Should be an MLE guy
Jason Terry - he's washed at this point and shouldn't even be starting. And the long contract hurts too because he's going to continue to get worse. Should be making ~8M a year on a 1 or 2yr deal
Caron Butler - he's the 2nd or 3rd best wing on a good team. Not necessarily a bad player but shouldn't be making max or close to max money. Deserves ~7M/yr
Richard Jefferson - see Caron Butler. Deserves ~7M/yr as well
Vince Carter - similar to Butler/RJ but he's slightly better. Deserves ~9M/yr
Brendan Haywood - he's one of the best bigs in the league but 100M over 5 years is going to hurt if he doesn't retire early, especially if he starts declining. I guess at least the cap goes up. 15M/yr is fine for now, but a declining deal that was ~50M over 4 years would be better
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Allen Iverson - he's also washed but at least his deal isn't as big. Hopefully he retires soon. Deserves ~5M/yr
Jeff Green - similar to Butler/RJ
Caron Butler - he's the 2nd or 3rd best wing on a good team. Not necessarily a bad player but shouldn't be making max or close to max money. Deserves ~7M/yr
Richard Jefferson - see Caron Butler. Deserves ~7M/yr as well
Vince Carter - similar to Butler/RJ but he's slightly better. Deserves ~9M/yr
Brendan Haywood - he's one of the best bigs in the league but 100M over 5 years is going to hurt if he doesn't retire early, especially if he starts declining. I guess at least the cap goes up. 15M/yr is fine for now, but a declining deal that was ~50M over 4 years would be better
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Allen Iverson - he's also washed but at least his deal isn't as big. Hopefully he retires soon. Deserves ~5M/yr
Jeff Green - similar to Butler/RJ
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Jason Terry old as fuck done. MLE maybe ? I guess lol
Iverson- done. Maybe a couple mill a year at max
rj solid player but he’s getting paid way to much slightly under MLE money would be fair
James Johnson- man tc hasn’t been nice he looked pretty good idk. Probably 5 mill a year
mike Conley- my dude champion, warrior smoked Both ebbs brothers but getting paid way to much man probably 8 mill a year is fair enough for a team like mine
gooden decent player not worth the money. Probably like 3-4 mill a year
Iverson- done. Maybe a couple mill a year at max
rj solid player but he’s getting paid way to much slightly under MLE money would be fair
James Johnson- man tc hasn’t been nice he looked pretty good idk. Probably 5 mill a year
mike Conley- my dude champion, warrior smoked Both ebbs brothers but getting paid way to much man probably 8 mill a year is fair enough for a team like mine
gooden decent player not worth the money. Probably like 3-4 mill a year
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AI- Shouldn't even be in the league, can't win with that guy
Jason Terry - He is cooked, TO prone, no defense. yuck 4M AVV
Conley - Good player, good for clouds team. justs makes wayyyyy too much. 7M AVV
Beno - This might be weird, and i'm not hating on Brooks here. I just think guys making the max can't turn it over 4 times a game at SG. him at 10-12M AVV is much more interesting
AK-47 - He honestly just has the weirdest build i've seen in FBB. He is the most tweener guy in the league and IDK what kind of team wins with him taking up 20% of their cap space. 7-8M AVV
Jason Terry - He is cooked, TO prone, no defense. yuck 4M AVV
Conley - Good player, good for clouds team. justs makes wayyyyy too much. 7M AVV
Beno - This might be weird, and i'm not hating on Brooks here. I just think guys making the max can't turn it over 4 times a game at SG. him at 10-12M AVV is much more interesting
AK-47 - He honestly just has the weirdest build i've seen in FBB. He is the most tweener guy in the league and IDK what kind of team wins with him taking up 20% of their cap space. 7-8M AVV
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Iverson - prob my all time favorite player growing up as a 76ers fan but he’s so washed here.
$3M per
Lamarcis Aldridge - guy doesn’t do anything particularly well to stand out.
$2M per
Jason Terry - can produce a little if given way too many minutes. Duration is brutal at that price.
$5M per
Nene - looks half decent on paper but produces like LMA on a worse deal
$5M per
Vince Carter - unfortunate but his run is over as a legit wing especially with that deal
$8M per
$3M per
Lamarcis Aldridge - guy doesn’t do anything particularly well to stand out.
$2M per
Jason Terry - can produce a little if given way too many minutes. Duration is brutal at that price.
$5M per
Nene - looks half decent on paper but produces like LMA on a worse deal
$5M per
Vince Carter - unfortunate but his run is over as a legit wing especially with that deal
$8M per
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